Linda Kasahbian supports herself on welfare,for having illegal kids the state has to support---we need less Linda Kasabians!! ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Yeah, all true. Manson announced that it was time for Helter Skelter, the inevitable race war after which he and his followers would take control of America. Pat, in Guinn's book, presents herself as not wanting the murders to happen, going so far as to say that the following night at Waverley, before anthing happened with Rosemary, she prayed to God, asking him to make the murders stop and since she went ahead and exercised her own free will in participating in carnage and mutilation and God didn't strike her down and stop her, Leslie or Tex, she's not believed in God since that night.And she has a problem with Linda presenting herself as not being a willing participant.As a side issue, if Linda hadn't been at the car when they arrived at it after Cielo's action, would they have just driven off and left her ? Though it may sound like an almost insane point to make, I think that the real loser in the entire saga was indeed Linda. Linda probably came from a home where she was ignored, and didn't have much direction or discipline, hence her making extremely poor choices in life, even as recent as 1997. I gotta say I lean to the Saint here. After her sophomore year she dropped out to marry Robert Moses Peaslee. And let's take it a step further - let's only have sympathy for the good looking, and also for those making 100K.Saint, my ass. Low self esteem because she was overweight or other childhood issues? It is time to bring the world-wide struggle- the war, back to the US to raise up the black man and bring down capitalism. Low level of intelligence: Blanket judging others as having a low level of intelligence because they don't agree with you on your low intellect, racist ideas.Manson Mythos, Obama is:Community organizerAttorneyConstitutional law professorState SenatorUS SenatorPOTUSNobel LaureateManson Mythos:Angry racist moron. Grim, I love you to death and read everything you post but you have a tendency to 'move the goal posts' which makes responding to you rather difficult. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. Linda's daughter, aka "Lady Dangerous" was arrested for possession of a controlled substance (both rock and powder cocaine), and was sentenced to a year in state prison. https://web.archive.org/web/20021014185811/http://www.mansonmurders.com/kasabianreport.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20001003172732/http://www.mansonmurders.com/kasabian.htmlBasically lovely Little Tonya ended up in State Prison for drugs. Her father was a construction worker and her mother a stay-at-home parent. The parts I found 'dramatic' would probably pass many people by. AustinAnn74 saidI never thought she was an innocent flower childOf her being a Hippie he commented that "if any witness was ever placed under a microscope, it was Linda Kasabian, and I am convinced that each and every one of you saw the same thing under that microscope, a young hippie girl whose aimless drug oriented life tragically led her to Spahn Ranch, Charles Manson, and two nights of murder ~ two nights of horror"Hippies were not seen as the vanguard of morality or these nice folk that straight society looked to as the shining example of what young people were to be. I think my age (time to come full circle) gives me an advantage to understand some things others don't have.I have (after many years) had discussions with folks that I had "conflicts" with (earlier in life) and almost always THEY saw the "conflict" in a DIFFERENT light than ME. But what happened before and after that. Of course, "robbery" also STIMULATES a capitalist society. But here you go. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. At the age of 16, Drouin dropped out of high school and got married, and soon after, divorced. I'm saying a good DA could have convicted them using that tool and yes, Van Houten is the example. She let the cat out of the bag about so many other things. I certainly wouldn't rely on it for back up proving Linda to be dodgy. Was HE dropping Naplam on little girls running for cover down the road ?Linda K. is the perfect choise for examination IF you want to discover a more human side of the Manson Family Story. Do I mean the jury should disregard it? Today Mrs. Kasabian was granted a two-week delay before entering a plea in the Tate murder case to enable her attorney to study the grand jury transcript. "We'd got the indictments. So even if Kasabian was a Hippy, when pared down to essentials, Hippiedom was hardly presented as an advert for something wholesome. The three were instructed to kill an actor that once picked Kasabian up hitchhiking. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. He said he surmised it was the reason. The penalty phase is, according to Charlie {in his "arresting Bobby wrongly" statement at trial}, Steve Grogan {his testimony} and Susan Atkins {"The myth of HS"} what the defence would have been.Overlooking the fact that Atkins sold him out pretty fastShe initially told her cell mates of her involvement in TLB and Charlie's leadership never envisioning they'd tell the authorities. I remember one of the things that made reading Kasabian's testimony so hard to read were the number of objections and bench conferences. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anything. The people I have met who support Charlie cant stand her. The DA's office had to get old charges from Inyo refiled to keep Charlie inside. The reporters ? Manson Mythos saidThe recent revelation of the close proximity of the apartment where Saladin Nader allegedly lived and the HQ of the Straight Satans is something that cannot be dismissed as pure CoincidenceOf course it can !In a city where different Family members had various dealings, if some of those places were near each other, what is unusual about that ? Her new family, though, was already falling apart. There have also been a number of stories of the appalling way some care workers have treated the residents so this has also unfairly soured their general image in the minds of many. Her background should have had a greater impact. After they are convicted they need to embrace the official narrative or they don't get out. But I don't think so. Charlie went back to where he'd spent most of his life; I don't believe that he wanted to be there but I think he's long been pragmatic about jail. According to cielodrive.com, Linda and Robert lived together for three months, however, they divorced when she was 17 years old. At one point he actually criticizes one of the defence lawyers for calling a witness without having spoken to them.I thought all lawyers know what they want those that matter to hear ! The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. "Furthermore, to varying degrees the women believed in their cause. What she said about Leslie was dynamite. BUT Bugliosi said she (only she oddly) thought it was a creepy crawl mission. Bruce, Tex, Leslie, Susan, Pat, Clem and Bobby all in one way or another made something of their lives without imploding. We all know that the Saint is a good guy. So if Kasabian stumbles on what he wants and says they arrived at the Polanski residence "4-5 hours after dark". And if so, in what context ? If Fleischmann actually did come up with that plan to knock Atkins out of the last seat in the life boat it was brilliant. He admits things now but this is not "incarceration '69/70. But again, I would think people on both sides of this would have issues with her. A major opportunity to show the jury that the star witness is a bloody liar ? Just a thought.It brings me back to my favorite question about motive. It has positive aspects but often, is anything but.Linda is one person people on both sides can agree was no good personally.I wouldn't say that about anybody. Dreath, I seem to agree with most things you have said.Does it carry any weight with you that The Actual Killers say they want there to ignite H/S?? One gunshot would have sufficed. Her parents divorced and remarried when Linda was still young. As we all know Linda Kasabian was born Linda Darlene Drouin on June 21, 1949. Another interesting point: Kasabian never said the motive was Helter Skelter. Why any of them were picked isn't really relevant is it ? Here is an example. She mentioned to the Grand Jury that there were to be 2 death squads. I gotta disagree with you on that one. Maybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do?? Police investigation ? I should also add I think more than half of what is said about him and the various different accounts of life on the ranch is myth and fantastic sensationalism. Who Is Linda Kasabian? But wait a minute Grim, Atkins never mentions this event to the Grand Jury, not a word. I can still see Bill Nelson (Molesto)'s banner headline when he did the Lady Dangerous report. A second marriage to an Armenian-American hippie named Robert Kasabian, who she met in Boston, followed in 1967. Horrified, Linda looked him in the eye and said "sorry," just before he collapsed. Made me think. That's why anything said after a leading question should be tossed in the waste bin. [Bugliosi gives her the answer. He was a talented musician and her initial days at the ranch were filled with LSD, music, stories, dancing around and orgies. Now taken into considering the location this apparently took place. Low level of intelligence: thinking a socialist was going to turn the United States into an idealist utopia where college was free, black people got reparations and Marijuana grew wild for all to partake. You are correct, alone it is meaningless. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission" you're on swampy ground because Linda isn't the only one that didn't know what was going on that night. See the events in life of Linda Kasabian in Chronological Order, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNtPU0K_oo, https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/linda-kasabian-11099.php. Look at what Malcolm X had said and look at what the Black Panthers are saying in 1969. Manson Blog Reveals Bobby Beausoleil's "Art" Focuses on Child Domestic Discipline! Bugliosi said that was the ONLY reason she was "picked". Of course he knew from the start the jury would question this. She was last reported to be living with Tanya in Washington State. No other reason." He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. During her eighteen days testimony, she was under immense pressure. I should have found a way and not gone over the fence and run down the hill. Susan's deal was that nothing she said could be used against any of her co~defendants and there was no evidence that Linda had been along on either night.Atkins claimed that the prosecution steered her into recanting but it was she who kept insisting on seeing Charlie, after which, she recanted.One wonders how he would have spun Sadie if he needed her instead of turning this obvious piece of trash into a little angel? I have for the past many years looked at these crimes from the prospective of how I might have handled the defense. HS was something she was getting to grips with. I haven't been back to this thread in a couple of weeks. Hippiedom often talked a good game and tried to build a weighty paradise on a foundation so shallow and flimsy that it cracked under the weight of reality. While the attorneys dropped the defense on the ground's they didn't want their clients to commit suicide, Fitzgerald at least voiced the opinion it would have been suicide for Manson as well, as it would have only proven Bugliosi's case right.What is funny, is that Manson is demonized for supposedly trying to make the girls take the rap to save him. For example where Manson Mythos said:while he [Charlie] is no angel, I don't think he is all bad.So he does have redeeming qualities and a good side as well I agree with him there. That was about all we had" speaks volumes, not to mention his thought at the end of '69 that Manson could well be acquitted and his feeling that it could turn out to be better for Linda to be tried & acquitted than testify against the Family.there are occasions too numerous to count in the Tate-LaBianca trial where he 'leads' his key witness to the answer he wantsTrue, but it's an answer that he wants already knowing that answer. She swore before a Grand Jury, that under the direction of Charlie Manson, she stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death and had participated in the murder of music teacher Gary Hinman.During her grand jury testimony, Atkins testified that there was no limit to what . It's not a fair or valuable trait to have.we are trained to disregard the Parry Mason notion of courtrooms: someone actually out and out lying on the witness standThat makes good sense and allows for nuances. Bill Kurtis can make it sound like the best name ever. 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